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Speaker 1
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Okay, everybody, so let's introduce ourselves with our names and our ID.
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Speaker 2
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Okay? I'm Lizbeth my id is m s, f t. One Zen-
Speaker 3
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Hey, I am jean, my Id is-
Speaker 4
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Hi, I'm Akash my ID is msft. One Zen 30003.
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Speaker 1
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Hi, I'm Raphael, my D ID is M S, F,T one, Zen 300009. So, today we're going to talk about pets. Okay, so what do you think about pets if it's better to adopt or to actually buy a pet? And we're going to start after I clap? What do you think of this bed? Now that you have you told us that you are have adopted a pet? What do you think? What are your thoughts?
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Speaker 2
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Speaker 2: (01:11)
So I am very strongly for adopting paths. I have, um, I am adopting a rescue cut from Oklahoma. Um, he was brought into the, uh, vest to be euthanized puppy. Two puppies were brought in to be euthanized. Um, and they were super scared and the rescue site said, well, we'll take them and we'll try to adopt them. So I don't, I've seen a picture of him. I don't, he's a lot he's we don't know what kind of dog he is. Um, but he's about three to four months old and I'm picking him up on Saturday and he is my third rescue dog. And, um, there are just so many dogs and cats. Um, so it just, just doesn't that are just roaming around all over, over the world. And, um, that are treated poorly. They come in where they get shot at, they get like their flea infected and they're wordy.
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Speaker 4
2:54
Yeah, I mean, I feel from the humanitarian ground, like adopting versus taking apart from from the Canada wherever it is, I think humanitarian tops the ground for sure. Right? Because you're doing something good. For for the for the pet, which has been left alone, for whatever reason it may be. So I second. I mean, I don't have any pets. Personally, I had not I had when I was like a kid. We took it in we adopted a dog from the street. I mean, he was just born and we took it in and he was he was just there by himself. But then so that's the only experience I have. I mean, he unfortunately passed away after after a year, but that's the only memory I have about having having pads but I totally second the thought of adopting it rather than buying it.
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Speaker 1
3:51
And what do you think? Why do you think people would prefer to buy a dog instead of actually adopting?
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Speaker 2
3:57
So So a number of things that people are afraid if it's a rescue, you don't know what its background is? Yeah. And so you don't know what sort of dog it is. You don't know what his background is could have been abused and I may not be that you know that friendly or whatever. Um, there's I also think that people some people are allergic and they want a dog that's that is not an allergen type dog and then I sometimes I think people maybe want a status type dog. I don't I don't I don't know where I where I live on once everybody has some sort of doodle type dogs are very few months. And then there are certain dogs that have they come with like a free I don't know bias solution. Both are example but both of my last dogs were Pitbull Staffordshire Terrier mixes and they were both love, I mean, amazing loving dogs. I didn't, they weren't going to, you know, go attack people. But but that's you know, so people they get a bad rap because those are the fighting dogs. And then if you're going to show a dog then I guess if you want to, if you that's what you want to do. But I just think there's a lot of bad breeders out there that there's a lot of good ones, but there's some bad ones that just kind of breed and breeding and breeding and breeding and breeding You don't even know you don't really know if you're getting a good dog or not either from a breeder. So that's just my
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Speaker 3
5:42
I have a friend. She bought a dog. Because she called me because she she know as time goes by with a dog, yo, yo, give it your love. You're caring. So to be absolutely healthy, to be live long time. So because she Yes, so. So she she bought a bite out. So she think that gene gene engine technology that he thinks she thinks the donkey warehously and can take her company for a long time.
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Speaker 2
6:30
Did she buy? Are you saying she bought a breed like a breeding a bred dog from a breeder? Yes. So that's a sort of what I mean what I understand. And I'm not a dog expert by any means. But oftentimes purebred dogs are less healthy than dogs that aren't purebred, because you're breeding dogs for certain characteristics. So you're bringing the same sort of dog together. And if and so for example, well, although I don't this is a really good example. But my last dog was albino. And it was because he, there's a gene called the Merle gene, that people try to breed together to get white dogs. But oftentimes, they're deaf and they can't see. And so I think you have to be careful when you're buying a dog, because if you breed dogs that are too close in lineage, you could pick up those bad traits into those dogs, whereas mutts are just months and you you know, they're, they don't, they may get a bad thing and a bad thing. But hopefully they cross out. But you know, I don't know. So my experience is unless it's a breeder is really good. I don't know if it's, if that isn't necessarily the truth based on what I know.
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Speaker 4
7:56
So very good session, I was talking to my daughter's like Few days back and forth. One is five and one is three. The fours are like, oh, Danny need to have a pad and we want to get a dog. So I was now getting introduced to and learning or reading about where to get a dog. Whether it should be a rescue or he or I should buy from the printer or something. But this seems to be the right topic at the time. I get a lot of knowledge because this is the best topic I could think of right now. Yeah,
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Speaker 1
8:28
yeah. What's the breed of your dog? Sorry, what's the what's the Yeah.
8:37
Like, Judo or the Judo? Yeah, yeah. Lots of judo,
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Speaker 3
8:42
kind of being ducks. But now the training, I think,
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Speaker 2
8:46
yeah, doesn't try it. So it's probably like a Labradoodle, or at all, so it's like, Yeah, I know, it sounds to me, most people I know have some sort of doodle because they don't share it. And that I mean,
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Speaker 4
9:02
Labrador Labradors are great dogs. Great dogs that word and then they are not like Golden Retrievers where they shed shed the hair shedding is lesser right
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Speaker 2
9:15
there has not as lie, right? Oh, yeah. So they Yeah, and they and they are really good dog
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Speaker 4
9:20
flex are really good dog. Yeah, they're being friendly with kids. I was reading the article yesterday like 40 dogs you should not really get if you have kids or something like that.
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doing some research I
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was doing some research. Yeah, I was.
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Speaker 2
9:33
Yeah. And so and I think we were talking to about like, what some people want to buy from a breeder versus adopt is you don't know when you like when you adopt a dog like especially my dog got this dog. I'm getting picking up I Saturday. I I don't I don't know how big it's gonna be like it could be the last dog I adopted. adopted and he was 20 pounds. He ended up being 85 Oh my God. And I did the DNA on him and he was a mix. He was Like boxer Shepherd, Pitbull, and some sort of hound mix. But he was beautiful. He was a beautiful dog and a really good dog. So, um, but I think that's another, I think you have to kind of look at all those parameters. And definitely when you have kids, especially smaller kids, yeah, you want to make sure that the dog is is not super strong and is going to like, not because they're just like, they can be excited, like, I'm not gonna invite your kid but like, when my parents came to visit my 85 pound dog, you know, they were excited to see my parents and my parents are in their 80s. And, and so you just have to kind of think about your environment in the context of the dogs and it sounds like you're doing a lot of research with them.
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Speaker 4
10:53
Yeah, no, I definitely am. Because there are dogs with knees a lot of area as well. For example, Dobermans, or German Shepherds, and all they need more exercising, I guess, to go around and such as so the house size also matters in terms of buying a dog. When you're adopting you have limited options, right? Like, only those dollars, which are available for adoption, you could really really adopt. But when you buy you have options, or you can wait and you can do the research and buy what you really fit into the house. Yeah, those are the I think I know that difference. I will only adopt for a reason. That's the only thing I think of right now. I mean, obviously I'm not a dog person.
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Speaker 3
11:37
I'm not a dog person. I personally I like cats. I enjoy several cats in different times. When I was a bit of growth. Yeah. I think cats sometimes they may be very close to you. They need you are holding your piping. But sometimes they are quite independent. Just like this, because I think sometimes I need some independent I need some alone time. It seems like it's not that you taking care of the case is that they give you some kind of company Yeah, it's given me this this feeling and they are quite free. They are free animals. I think they don't depend too much on human beings they can leave very good outside world this is this one is not like dog as a consult conducted the wild wild just alone you in outside.
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Speaker 2
12:46
Korea Yeah, I would agree and did when you so you said you had pets as a child. Did you or cats as a child did you find like your cats are very similar or did some like to cuddle more? You know, cuz dogs cuz I have you know, had two dogs and like one like, one one body with a lap dog at 85 pounds and the other ones 24. And he doesn't really like to cuddle. He likes to be by you but doesn't like to cuddle. But I know cats can also have the same sort of very small amount of pet so I want to sit someone to pet some don't want to be Did you? Did you find your cats or different personalities like that? No, no,
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Speaker 3
13:27
they're all nice. Yeah. Similar. Sometimes they need you. Sometimes they don't maybe.
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Like they have zones.
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Yeah, they have personalities.
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Speaker 1
13:41
I remember I visited a friend in LA and he had three cats. And all like, all each cat had a different personality. And I remember that the friendliest one was one who had adopted brought from Mexico and I was allergic to that one especially. I had no idea I was allergic to cats. And to that day, you know, it was like, What is this? And you know, my, my skin was like old bread and that was the cheat. And then I noticed that this cat was like a dog just like a dog who just wanted to play with you. You want to touch him or not. Okay, this is a very interesting cat. And then I thought yeah, I would like to have a cat because I think that dogs require a lot of they do. You have to walk them and and they're always like, right there. You know, I need you to to pay attention to them.
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They're a little
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Speaker 1
14:36
they're needy, you know? So with cats, you know, you don't. They're like, Oh no, whenever I want to be around you you have to be ready for me. But then like, in the meantime, I can be on my own. So that's that's, I would say I would be a cat person. I don't know. I've never had pets. Yeah, but that that. That day I remember. One of the cats was always out. The other cat was very, like, you know, like, okay, it was he would stand very high like, on a pedestal and look at
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our eye and he kind
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of like the spreading
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Speaker 1
15:17
will be like ready and just look at you like non stop and then the other kind of just trying to play with and, and yeah, I noticed that. Okay, so cats can be fun to some cats. Yeah. So I didn't know when you just mentioned that some dogs or someone used to pet them for for a long time now I thought that was also like pretty interesting. So some dogs can also not be too friendly, right?
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Speaker 2
15:44
Yeah, yeah, my dog. I mean, he is so interesting that you say that about the dog like dogs. Our dogs are needy, I grew up with a dog and a cat. And and then we didn't have a path. And we just one time my son and I went to the Humane Society and they had a puppy and we're like, okay, we'll take it. We just want to go look at dogs. And they were like, Hey, we got puppy doing it. And so then that we got that one and we got this other talk. But um, I will say when you come home and that thing is so excited to see you and he's jumping around. He's just like, he's gets really excited to see you just like he runs circles and he's just like, so happy. Yeah, it's like no one in my family has ever been so happy to see me that my dog when I walk in the door, even if I'm gone for five minutes. Yeah. So that's like a really good feeling. But But I do get dogs aren't moody and cats that much. I mean, from my experience. I'm not an expert on animals, per se. Yeah, definitely say that. And I I don't know how you guys how do you guys feel about like, other animals like reptiles or birds? Or?
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Speaker 4
17:00
I don't know. I think that mystery is due to reptiles.
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Your house?
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I mean, well,
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Speaker 4
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because for me Everything is lizards, snakes. The other insects which kind of like I just don't I'm mentally allergic as in like, I just can't stand it. I don't know why I have never thought about it. Why, but it's just kind of eats me.
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I should not say that. But I
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that's the feeling about turtles. Turtles cute.
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Speaker 4
17:38
Yeah, they're cute, but they're good at what we can do by themselves. I don't know whether they need any human touch. Honestly.
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No, but some people just have like a, like a
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like a very in the aquarium or pond.
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Fish at home. Yeah.
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Speaker 3
18:01
They're just so easy to take care of. That gives them some food and change the water once a week. And my kids liked it. They like watching the fish eating. They want to fade and fade and fade. Because when I was young, I I feed them too. Too much. Too much food.
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And I'm sure they're very happy
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to see Yeah.
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Speaker 3
18:31
Which has no meaning. But I found once I close to the tank, just very active.
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Oh, yeah.
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Being das tails. Yeah.
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Speaker 3
18:46
Basically, is as he saw me.
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Speaker 2
18:49
So they must like they must associate you with with calm or food or something. Right that they? They see you.
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Speaker 1
18:59
I know that parents lived for a very long time. And I have a friend that has had his parents for like 25 years. Really?
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Yeah. This thing doesn't talk.
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Speaker 1
19:13
Well, every every time I was around, he would look at me suspiciously. So it was very protective.
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I could see why I could see
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the face mask on.
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Speaker 1
19:26
Well, at the time, I didn't have my face mask on. No, but this this one was very protective. beautiful colours, I think it was like from from one of one of the one of the one of one of the bursts from his movie reel. looked like he was from Amazon. It was this big. And then this one in particular was very protective. But and my friend, I remember he told me that now he's like he always behaves like that. Like ever, every time there's a new person who just sit and be like, look at you with one eye. And then when they're relaxed, then they'll just do something else, you know, but I think that's like a cool pitch to have because they live up to like, 40 years. 50 years to look for a very, very long time. I
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didn't know that at all.
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Speaker 1
20:23
Yeah, yeah. And he also had like, you know, like cats, I'll have like a playground he had a playground for his parrot. And we just come out and like Likud like a tree with with no with like, branches and no leaves so that we have to go down and with this peak, and then they have very strong peaks. And then we just like, duel, those all sorts of things. That was fun.
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Did it live in a cave? Like Did it have a cage?
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Silliman it did have a cage? Yes. Because the A became a huge cage. It was like this big, but
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then he would let it out. He would let it and it would go in his in his play.
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And he wouldn't even
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Speaker 2
21:04
go into his play around play. Yes. That wasn't in this cage was separate from his cage.
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Speaker 1
21:08
Yeah, it was like he would just open like the gate and the parent would come out and just play.
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And would it fly around the house? And
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I would I don't know.
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Speaker 1
21:20
I think that after a while, they just forget how to fly. Okay, but he will become very, very afraid of cruise. So they didn't need to like clip its wings or keep it like I thought that was I've never owned bird. So I don't know, but I thought there was something about you click their wings to keep them from? I don't. I don't think he looked. Because I could see that the parrot was like, Yeah, I was like, fine. So I didn't go too deep.
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But that's the herd.
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Speaker 4
21:50
I believe one is rescued birds as pets, because I don't think that as soon as they get out, they can just fly off. Fly unless you
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put their wings obviously. And you also have to watch for cats, you know?
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Yeah. And other animals would really pound
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but if they're that, if they're that big.
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Speaker 2
22:11
It seems to me I and I think it might be when I was living in Singapore, like we would see these somebody had a pet some sort of a pair it was white and it was maybe a macaw. I don't know what the. And it was really, really pretty. But it was I mean, you kind of you weren't sure if it was like an actual bird that net. But it was a pet and it was scape sometimes. And we would see it like and then and then they would somehow get it to come back. So I don't know if it was like more like a cat where it went out you came back in or if it just would escape and go sit in a tree and then like it seemed like it was pretty territorial. But it was an actual pattern. It wasn't it wasn't a an unnatural bird.
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A wild a wild a wild bird. That's what I'm looking for.
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Yeah,
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um, so my neighbours have chickens.
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Speaker 2
23:02
And they and speaking of birds, my neighbor's chickens. And we're taking care of them starting today because they're going on holiday. And so I'm out kind of maybe they're outside in a in a pan. Yeah, they just got them. And so I'll get to watch a little bit of chicken behaviour and
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see what it's all about. But
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Speaker 2
23:30
we went over those you see them the other day and they're, they're not quite ready to lay eggs, but that's what they got them for. They got them to. But they found out after 12 weeks that one was a male. I guess it's hard to tell the difference between male and female birds. But at this point, I guess he started to become a rooster looking. So now they have 11. And I have to like feed them and they actually at night she said they just go into their little house to roost and sleep. And so we'd have to shut the door and then in the morning, let them out and then they'll kind of run around in there.
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Yeah, but I bought the cleaning parts.
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Speaker 2
24:11
So they're outside and I don't have to clean I don't know if they have like you know where they sleep. If they have something to pull out. you spray it I've seen some of those before. But I know several people have chickens because I've run around. But they're the they're the first ones I've actually had the conversation with about you know, they got him for the eggs. So I don't know I have to ask her but I don't have to clean.
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Okay. I mean like are the
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Speaker 2
24:44
my my kids are supposed to be taking care of them. They're the ones that are getting paid, but I feel like I need to check in and make sure that
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Speaker 4
24:52
also you have the dogs I don't know how that relationship of having a dog as well as the chicken would really pan out if they're regularly Do
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they offer you
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Speaker 2
25:03
there? Aren't they are my dog my dogs afraid of them? Oh, okay. But they are in a so they have some they have I don't know the correct terminology. A coupe I guess is like the little man a little house they live in they sleep and then they have like a smaller pen. And then they have a bigger pen so they've grown. But I'm just going to keep them in this smaller pen because I don't know if they are starting to fly a little bit. I don't want to fly and get out because there are dogs.
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Yeah.
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Speaker 2
25:33
Maybe you know, I don't know, do raccoons eat chickens? I don't know. We have record. I just don't you know, I don't. I don't want to be responsible for one of their records in this area.
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No, yes.
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Yes. In Seattle. I've seen a few records on this 140 though. Have you? Yeah.
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Speaker 4
25:52
I was like, I was living here before I get to waffle. So I was living on ramen for years. And we would go out for walks at night in summer, right? Beautiful time but then I we see them and they especially in the communities like the apartment communities. Yeah, there's a lot of dumpsters. One one place. So there's raccoons they come in, then they eat feed out that area. So they're scary, though. There was one raccoon right off our building like this campus. This office campus right. On the other side there is a tree, which is towards the building was one day I just got off at like seven o'clock in the evening. And I just saw like big racket like standing. I just got so scared. Like literally Yeah. Shoo go away. And then he would not budge. Like he would just stand as is like, whatever you and I feel like, like, I never thought too hard. But I like throw at him. And he's just standing. He's not even moving an inch those like really scared.
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Speaker 1
26:55
Because Well, I used to live in San Diego. And I know that in California where you will find his mountain lion. Yeah. And what room? I remember in like, I would say like, in the suburbs of La you will find more like in the valleys, you will find more of them. And they will actually attack your dogs. Yeah, yeah. So I was thinking Oh, can you find those here? Because I was terrified. Yeah, so yeah, I don't think you can find them here. Right because Well, no.
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Speaker 2
27:32
They haven't definitely like issaquah and even kind of the Newport belt which is
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Yeah, the Newport
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Speaker 2
27:40
Newport area cuz I know there's like several trails back there and something somebody even spotted that they're kind of new poor south of what would be south of Newport kind of on the way to like, I guess but Renton Highlands I mean, I I know these names are you're probably like, but but I haven't. I have so we have a ring. And and then people will report like seeing a bear or a mountain lion. And and so I mean you haven't my bottle like you have yet.
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I have been able to
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Speaker 4
28:20
like small black bear. Yeah, like walking into one of my like, it was about half a mile away from my house. like walking right into the backyard. And I don't know trying to eat something I was doing. But it was too. I mean, it was funny though. It was small. It was a bit.
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Speaker 2
28:40
Yeah, but you know, it's like it's mom might be nearby so yeah. It was a small one and then you don't know where the mom is. You could get like
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yeah, that's more
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Speaker 2
28:53
between the cute baby bear and the scary mom because she's not sure what your what your true with the baby bear. But yeah, that's I mean, I see raccoons on my ring. Sometimes like, sauntering near your house. in my backyard, I walk right by my house and
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Speaker 4
29:15
like what are they interested in? Yeah, no, I think first is nightmare because they keep coming. Yeah, the territory even very territorial.
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Speaker 2
29:29
Yeah, grab like they they get they usually get into our trash and then
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like in the movies.
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Speaker 2
29:37
Totally. Totally. Yeah. And but now mostly, it's our trash is kind of full. It's the crows that are always like in there, picking it picking up stuff. So I know we've gotten away from like pets, but
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Speaker 1
29:52
Okay, so it's about 30 minutes. earlier.
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Speaker 2
29:57
Are we at 30 minutes or do we Can I talk more about that?
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Yeah, it's 30 minutes I said I worry about my rescue
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Speaker 2
30:05
my rescue pet at home. All the rescue organisations that I've at least up here the the I mean that's that's why all these there's so many rescue organisations that rescue out of Texas, Oklahoma and southern cow because dogs I don't know people don't don't spayed or neutered their dogs they just they don't like Why don't you fix your dog or your cat? You know, they just don't and then they have like all these all these I mean all I'm constantly new puppies stray mon new puppies and they're all so cute. And then, you know, people are fortunately adopting many of them but some of them just don't. Don't happen so.
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Speaker 1
30:53
Okay, so let's stop the recording right here. Thank you so much.