Julius Antonius Bobis

[Indiscernible] [00:00:04] Interviewer: Okay so, um, so I wanted to ask you, just cause some of the, what, you know, what you got out of this and what makes sense to you. If you could let me know… Interviewee 1: Our thre-… our three sessions? Interviewer: Yeah yeah our three sessions. [Overlapping] [00:00:22] Interviewee 1: Um, what I got out of it *pause* well, what I got out of it, um, *pause* to… um I got so many things where do I start, um, lately since I’ve started in the therapy I have been listening more to KC with an open mind and letting him finish his sentences and really sitting there ang trying to to almost hear his words but I, I know there’s more to KC sometimes in his words and to try to… I’m trying to understand KC better besides the words and to see and feel the meaning behind it for me to have more patience, um, [Indiscernible] [00:01:06] Interviewee: I can go… I go slow anyways but I but too really go slow and to not always to wanna react really quick. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Interviewee 1: When KC says her dad does something to, uh, just have a little more patience and to, and to listen, and uh, I’ve learned a lot from KC and therapy from the questions you’ve asked him Interviewer: What happened? Interviewee 1: Yeah, about him. Interviewer: Like what? Interviewee 1: Um, well just about his project, the way his mind works so fast, uh, his mind works very quick, um, and I know it’s not my job but I wanna find loving ways to… to try to fuse things and calm him down, um, instead of reacting. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Interviewee 1: Um, I’ve learned that I need to take more responsibility for my well being and my health and my special needs. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Interviewee 1: To not assume that he knows everything… Interviewer: Great Interviewee 1: Even if he acts like he does… I, I still have to know that I’m an individual and that I wanna get my needs met and I’ve learned that I’m ready, willing, and not afraid to, um, to do hard things Interviewer: Uh-huh. Interviewee 1: And to, and to talk about things, that it’s safe to get things out in the open despite the outcome. Interviewer: Okay, and you? Interviewee 2: Yeah, um, ask a question and listen. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Interviewee 2: Uh, instead of, uh, knowing the right answer in my mind and just [Indiscernible] [00:02:35] in real quick on top of it, uh. Interviewer: Hmm. Interviewee 2: It’s one of the huge things that it, it, it’s an ongoing thing, it, it, it’s not that I didn’t know that it was important, uh, prior to our first meeting but, um, I, I’ve just realized that I really have to work some of these things that, you know, my mannerisms it seems so right to me, uh, and yet you know maybe there’s other ways to look at life besides mine. Interviewer: Hmm. Interviewee 2: And uh, I think that that’s how, that’s how the relationship can, can, can continue to go on and um, you know, if I’m Interviewer: Hmm. Interviewee 2: If I’m not able to do that I don’t know that it will continue on and you know, like you were saying I think the first time we met it’ll just be a business arrangement and it really won’t be a loving relationship. Interviewer: Hmm-hmm. Interviewee 2: And uh, uh, it’s gotten too close to the business relationship, uh Interviewer: Uh-huh. Interviewee 2: In the last number of years and um, you know, I mean to do my part to go and, uh, kinda, steer it away, you know, and at least steer myself [Overlapping] [00:03:51] Interviewee 2: Uh, she can steer any direction she feels she needs to I know. Interviewer: Anything else? Interviewee 2: Um, the camera doesn’t bother me, I don’t even know it’s on, tell you the truth, you know, it’s not something that would colors, colors any of my comments Interviewer: Yeah. Interviewee 2: Which, which is interesting. Interviewer: Um, I would only add rapping. Interviewee 2: Oh yeah, rapping, yeah. Interviewer: And speaking for yourselves, you, you’re trying to get to your feelings on whatever it is yeah, keep doing and try to dig on your own vulnerable feelings and share those because that’s the thing the other person is gonna listen to, um, that’s what ends up really being the draw, and the rapping is, if you don’t feel the person hurt you, you’re just gonna keep doing it louder [Overlapping] [00:04:43] Interviewee 2: Yeah, yeah, actually I’m sorry that I, I forgot that, it’s that we were, we were talking about, in fact we’ve been using more in our normal conversations with each other, you know, about… well let me wrap this do I understand you right by this whatever was just said and uh, and more, more times than not, it’s not what I may have been thinking… I speak for myself Interviewer: Uh-huh. Interviewee 2: And I’m going oh, okay, okay, okay, okay [Overlapping] [00:05:09] Interviewer: And this gets you right back on track, you don’t get to go very far of that [Overlapping] [00:05:16] Interviewee 1: And then the stories start. Interviewer: Yeah. Interviewee 1: Yeah! The stories I don’t even know what they are Interviewee 2: Yeah sometimes one thing spawns another and all of a sudden you just go “What are we talking about?” Interviewer: Exactly. *laughs* Interviewee 2: We’ve gone off, I mean we’re on a railroad siding and hell, you know, let’s get it back on Interviewee 1: *chuckles* Interviewer: Alrighty. Good enough.